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THE P.08 1941 GERMAN LUGER

Assembled Luger
Bar20Arms recently acquired this wonderful piece of history. This particular Luger is a 1941 with all matching numbers. This pistol has all the correct German military markings of the time. This pistol is apparently a "bring back weapon" from WW II.
We were so excited to bring this beautiful pistol home to add to the collection. This pistol is full functional and in great mechanical order. The bluing is in pretty bad shape do to combat wear. There are several places on the barrel and upper receiver that have bad spots in the bluing. The pistol throughout has heavy wear on the bluing. The mechanical workings are all in good shape and only show normal wear. The bolt easily cycles back to the rear and locks rearward when the magazine is empty. The bolt cycles swiftly forward with a simple pull rearward and release. The magazine releases easily and smoothly. The trigger is surprisingly smooth and short of travel. With one loaded magazine we cycled the rounds in the chamber and then ejected them again until the magazine was empty. Everything worked as it should with no malfunctions. The only thing left to do is shoot this baby! We would like to interject here to say that here at Bar20Arms we cannot own any firearm that should not be shot for any reason. Although we consider this to be a collectors item we still intended on shooting it from the day we saw it.

 

 

 

We have also researched information pertaining to stamps and numbers on the pistol and we came up with the following information.

VARIATIONS OF 41 AND 42 DATED byf CODE ARMY LUGERS IN WORD AND PICTURE (Note: these byf 41 and 42 Lugers were also procured in lesser numbers by the Luftwaffe and Navy.) Based on information supplied by the collectors of the German Lugers, Central Powers, and Axis Pistols Forum. Copyright 2010 by Jan C Still

BYF 41VARIATIONS Mausers byf manufacturing code replaced the 42 code in early 1941. Its use continued until German Army contract Luger production ceased in late 1942. All 41 byf Lugers bear the late Test Proof (LTP), a P.08 stamped on the left frame panel, and have a bore gauge.

Acceptance Stamps Variations The right receiver acceptance stamps determine byf 41 markings variations. They are as follows: SE655 SE655 LTP reported serial range 4636o-4627ns (estimated production 120,300) SE655 SE135 LTP reported serial range 4801ns-7491ns (estimated production 2,700) SE135 SE135 LTP reported serial range 7478ns-1121b (estimated production 14,500)

Bakelite grips and wood grips The byf 41 was manufactured with either wood or black bakelite grips. Although some black bakelite grips start in the “q” suffix block most are found in the “u” suffix block or later. The type of grips (bakelite or wood) determine a byf 41 variation.

Other 1941 changes The later 1941 production have a more pronounced bevel along the top edge of the middle toggle link. The dot in the P.08 is changed to a square dot at about the “w” suffix.

Right side of 41 byf Lugers. Top to bottom: 41 byf sn 9546w; E/655 E/655 LTP; wood grips, 41 byf sn 7491ns; E/655 E/135 LTP; black grips. 41 byf sn 6784a; E/135 E/135 LTP; black grips.

Changes in acceptance stamps and type of grips determine byf 41 Variations.

Check out this short clip below that demonstrates the Luger in operation.

The luger fired very smooth. There were no mechanical failures at all. This pistol is very comfortable to shoot. We were also very surprised with the accuracy of this 41 Luger. It is an amazing work of art. If you every have the oppertunity to fire a Luger, do not let it pass you up. Now that we have fired the Luger, we need to clean it. It is very important to clean your firearms after firing them. We would like to point out here that it is more important to clean older guns more frequently than modern firearms. More modern guns are designed with greater tolerances and can be fired more dirty than older guns. So now we will walk you through a complete dis-assembly and reassembly of the P.08 Luger. There are slightly different designs among the Luger's however in this review we will only be covering the P.08 Luger. The first step is to pull the bolt completely to the rear until it locks into place. Drop the magazine and observe the chamber to ensure it is cleared. Then swing the take down lever downward until it stops.( My thumb is on the take down lever ) SEE FIG.1

 Takedown LeverFIG.1

The second step is to lift the sideplate off the frame and set it to the side. Next pull the take down lever out of the frame and set it to the side. SEE FIG 1

 

Removing TriggerFIG.2

Lift trigger directly out of the frame. Watch that the spring does not pop out of the trigger. It should come out fairly easily but if it seems stuck just move it back and forth until it removes freely. SEE FIG.2

 

Pulling Slide off LowerFIG.3

At this point the upper will slide forward and off of the lower frame. There is nothing here that will fly out, so you can just pull it off at your own pace. SEE FIG.3

 

Removing Pin from SlideFIG.4

Pull the rear bolt pin from the upper. The pin can only be removed from the left side. As soon as the pin is removed the bolt will pop up. SEE FIG.4 When this pin is removed you will be able to easily pull the bolt assembly rearward out of the upper. SEE FIG.5

 

Removing Bolt from UpperFIG.5

To remove the firing pin you will need a large flat head screw driver. You will need to match the slot and depress the plug and turn counter clockwise. Do not put to much downward pressure because it will not turn. Slowly release the pressure allowing the plug to come out of the bolt. The spring will follow dragging the firing pin out with it. SEE FIG.7 This is really as far as you need to breakdown the bolt. You can clean the rest with a tooth brush and solvent and wipe clean with cotton rag. SEE FIG.6 & FIG.7

Removing Firing pinFIG.6Firing pin,Spring,and PlungerFully disassembled

If you have made it this far then you have successfully dis-assembled the P.08 Luger. The hard part is done. Now clean everything with solvent and wipe clean with a cotton rag. Reassembly is the above process in reverse. Everything will be very smooth going back. When your are putting everything back together make sure to apply a heavy oil to all wear spots. It is a good rule of thumb to apply oil to any part that is shiny. You also want to make sure and oil the "Rails" pretty good as they get a great deal of metal on metal friction. In addition to the reassembly there is one tricky part. I will continue below with a helpful hint to help you.

 

Hint

 

Hint2

When you slide the Upper back onto the Lower you have to make sure the swing arm on the upper falls down and under the two pronged mainspring lug. SEE FIG.9,FIG.10 Once you have passed this point just continue on in reverse from breakdown. Just remember to apply ample heavy weight oil to all places that wear. Much like the American counter part to this firearm the U.S. 1911, they are finely tuned machines. With proper usage and maintenance they are superior to any other countries weapons of the time. Just keep it clean and oiled and it will treat you right.

 

GOOD LUCK AND ENJOY YOUR P.08 LUGER

 

 

 

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